Author : Chewys
Team : This....IS MY BOOMSTICK, Demerzel, Gregoreo, bnkjk, JustWatchingManga
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Original Language: Español
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Type : manga
Genre : Action
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This....IS MY BOOMSTICK 12/20/2020 01:15:46Kiwi: Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got into this situation.
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Hahahahaha
Chewys 12/20/2020 01:51:33jajajajaja
Jouger13 12/26/2020 19:44:48Kui with 18.0000 against four guys around 10.000/12.000 (And they are still at Kaio ken 1)
DivinusRex 12/26/2020 12:06:39Kui is gonna get raped
12000 shouldn't be able to damage 18000, just a few thousands a huge difference, like vegeta 24000 kill 21000 dodoria easily with just 3000 difference. Dodoria couldn't even do any damage to vegeta
kcheeb 12/26/2020 15:42:02Team
And yet Vegeta was able to force Kaioken x3 Goku back in the beam struggle... Despite Vegeta being 18.000 and Goku 24.000
This....IS MY BOOMSTICK 12/26/2020 15:59:11Author
True. They may manage to land a few blows being a team, but they should power up a bit more to make any sustancial damage.
Chewys 12/26/2020 16:55:26They essentially caught Kiwi off-guard when they powered up using Kaioken. He never expected them to increase their power further after they had already plateaued with their base power. That moment of shock for Kiwi gave Tien the opportunity to strike. It's sort of similar to how Gohan was able to kick Dodoria in the face despite being vastly weaker in the manga/anime.
Ultimate-Perfection 12/27/2020 05:50:19Even if Tien didn't do a lot of damage to Kiwi, it will set up an opening for Krillin and Haarp to dish out their attacks on Kiwi as well.
Wasn't the base kaioken a 1.5 multiplier? How strong did they become in the afterlife? Or are they already using a x2 multiplier?
JoKar1007 12/27/2020 05:16:54Kiwi read Krillin's, Tien's, and Haarp's max base power levels at 7000.
Ultimate-Perfection 12/27/2020 05:34:52Dividing 12,000 by 7000 gives us 1.71, so roughly a 1.75x multiplier. That is pretty good since the three of them are still heeding King Kai's warnings about exceeding a 2x multiplier with Kaioken.
They will be conserving more of their stamina as well as doing less damage to their bodies. They have the advantage in numbers, so they should be keeping Kiwi on his toes for a while.
Once Vegeta enters the picture and goes Great Ape, they will almost have no choice but to crank up the higher multipliers of Kaioken!
According to the Dragon Ball wiki, base Kaio-ken is x2. It also says there is some inconsistency with Kaio-ken and Kaio-ken x2 seeming to be the same despite both Goku and King Kai believing there to be a difference. And yes I know the wiki can be unreliable sometimes, but there are sources to the manga and Daizenshuu 7 for what I've mentioned it said, so in this case I believe it's safe to say the information is reliable especially with the first part being sourced in the manga itself.
Kor Daemonsbane Saiyajinkami 12/27/2020 15:28:04Maybe Chewys has the base Kaio-ken a little weaker than x2 to clear up the inconsistencies for this story though as Ultimate Perfection pointed out it is around roughly a 1.75x multiplier according to the math.
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Yep. Wiki is made by fans. Toriyama originally treated it as two diffrent multipliers and that has been cause of debate among the fanbase to this day.
Chewys 12/27/2020 15:54:32So i'm gonna go and stand in mid ground: Base Kaioken is a 1,5-1,7 multiplier and Kaioken x2 is atound x2 multiplier.
Kaioken x3 is around x3 and so on.
And to avoid further controversy something might happen to Kiwi's scouter next page
Yeah the wiki is made by fans, but if something on it does have proper sources then it's reliable. That said since the canon itself created confusion about whether Kaioken and Kaioken x2 were any different from each other, it works in this situation for you to make them have a clear difference to clear up said confusion for this story.
Kor Daemonsbane Saiyajinkami 12/29/2020 17:26:38i like the little smoke part on kiwi's detector what gives a good clue of where the original picture was from
alain57 12/28/2020 10:04:18This story has become so unique, I'm extremely interested in how you continue it!
RegiFist 12/28/2020 23:06:17